Against Celsus 1.70
Summary: Jesus' eating and speaking are no argument against his divinity, since he truly took a human body; the Greek gods too spoke through human prophetesses.
Greek text · Koetschau 1:124
Λέγει δʼ ὅτι οὐδὲ τοιαῦτα σιτεῖται σῶμα θεοῦ, ὡς ἔχων αὐτὸν παραστῆσαι ἀπὸ τῶν εὐαγγελικῶν γραμμάτων σιτούμενον, καὶ ποῖα σιτούμενον. ἀλλʼ ἔστω, λεγέτω αὐτὸν βεβρωκέναι μετὰ τῶν μαθητῶν τὸ πάσχα, οὐ μόνον εἰπόντα τό· „ἐπιθυμίᾳ ἐπεθύμησα τοῦτο τὸ πάσχα φαγεῖν μεθʼ ὑμῶν“ ἀλλὰ καὶ βεβρωκότα, λεγέτω δʼ αὐτὸν καὶ διψήσαντα παρὰ τῇ πηγῇ τοῦ Ἰακὼβ πεπωκέναι· τί τοῦτο πρὸς τὰ περὶ τοῦ σώματος αὐτοῦ ὑφʼ ἡμῶν λεγόμενα; σαφῶς δὲ φαίνεται ἰχθύος μετὰ τὴν ἀνάστασιν βεβρωκώς· κατὰ γὰρ ἡμᾶς σῶμα ἀνείληφεν, ὡς γενόμενος „ἐκ γυναικός.“ ἀλλʼ οὐδὲ σῶμα, φησὶ, θεοῦ χρῆται τοιαύτῃ φωνῇ οὐδὲ τοιᾷδε πειθοῖ. καὶ ταῦτα δʼ εὐτελῆ καὶ σφόδρα εὐκαταφρόνητα· λελέξεται γὰρ πρὸς αὐτὸν ὅτι χρῆται ὁ πεπιστευμένος παρʼ Ἕλλησιν εἶναι θεὸς ὁ Πύθιος καὶ ὁ Διδυμεὺς τοιᾷδε φωνῇ τῇ τῆς Πυθίας ἢ τῆς ἐν Μιλήτῳ γενομένης προφήτιδος· καὶ οὐ διὰ τοῦτο ἐγκαλεῖται παρʼ Ἕλλησιν ὡς οὐ θεὸς ὁ Πύθιος ἢ ὁ Διδυμεὺς ἤ τις ἄλλος τοιοῦτος ἑνὶ τόπῳ ἐγκαθιδρυμένος Ἑλληνικὸς θεός. πολλῷ δὲ τούτου βέλτιον ἦν χρήσασθαι τὸν θεὸν φωνῇ ἐμποιούσῃ διὰ τὸ μετὰ δυνάμεως ἀπαγγέλλεσθαι ἄφατόν τινα πειθὼ τοῖς ἀκούουσιν.
English · Claude translation
He says too that "the body of a god does not eat such things," as though he could show from the Gospel writings that he ate, and what sort of things he ate. But suppose so: let him say that he ate the Passover with his disciples, not only saying, "I have earnestly desired to eat this Passover with you," but also eating it; and let him say that, being thirsty, he drank at the well of Jacob. What has this to do with what we say about his body? He is clearly seen to have eaten fish after the resurrection; for in our view he took a body, since he was "born of a woman." "But," he says, "the body of a god does not use such a voice, nor such a manner of persuasion." These things too are trivial and quite contemptible. For it will be said to him that the one believed by the Greeks to be a god, the Pythian and the Didymaean, uses such a voice as that of the Pythia or of the prophetess at Miletus; and the Pythian or the Didymaean, or any other such Greek god established in one place, is not for this reason charged by the Greeks with not being a god. But it was much better for God to use a voice that, because it is proclaimed with power, produces an inexpressible persuasion in the hearers.
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- The Gospel passages are Luke 22:15, John 4:6–7, Luke 24:42–43, and Gal 4:4. The Pythian and Didymaean are Apollo's oracles at Delphi and at Didyma near Miletus.
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Origen, Cels. 1.70 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/1/70/).
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Origen, Cels. 1.70 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/1/70/).
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