Against Celsus 7.3

Summary: Celsus prefers the Greek oracles to the Hebrew prophets, but Origen argues that even if the oracles are genuine they come from evil spirits, since the Pythian priestess received her spirit in a shameful way and prophesied in frenzy.

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Greek text · Koetschau 2:154–155

Φησὶν οὖν· τὰ μὲν ὑπὸ τῆς Πυθίας ἢ Δωδωνίδων ἢ Κλαρίου ἢ ἐν Βραγχίδαις ἢ ἐν Ἄμμωνος ὑπὸ μυρίων τε ἄλλων θεοπρόπων προειρημένα, ὑφʼ ὧν ἐπιεικῶς πᾶσα γῆ κατῳκίσθη, ταῦτα μὲν (ἐν) οὐδενὶ λόγῳ τίθενται· τὰ δὲ ὑπὸ τῶν ἐν Ἰουδαίᾳ τῷ ἐκείνων τρόπῳ λεχθέντα ἢ μὴ λεχθέντα, καὶ ὥσπερ εἰώθασιν ἔτι νῦν οἱ περὶ Φοινίκην τε καὶ Παλαιστίνην, ταῦτά γε θαυμαστὰ καὶ ἀπαράλλακτα ἡγοῦνται. λέγωμεν οὖν περὶ τῶν κατειλεγμένων χρηστηρίων ὅτι δυνατὸν μὲν ἡμῖν συνάγουσιν ἀπὸ Ἀριστοτέλους καὶ τῶν τὰ τοῦ Περιπάτου φιλοσοφησάντων οὐκ ὀλίγα εἰπεῖν εἰς ἀνατροπὴν τοῦ περὶ τῆς Πυθίας καὶ τῶν λοιπῶν χρηστηρίων λόγου· δυνατὸν δὲ καὶ τὰ λελεγμένα τῷ Ἐπικούρῳ καὶ τοῖς ἀσπαζομένοις αὐτοῦ τὸν λόγον περὶ τῶν αὐτῶν παραθέμενον δεῖξαι ὅτι καὶ Ἑλλήνων τινὲς ἀνατρέπουσι τὰς νομιζομένας καὶ τεθαυμασμένας ἐν πάσῃ Ἑλλάδι θεοπροπίας. ἀλλὰ γὰρ δεδόσθω μὴ εἶναι πλάσματα μηδὲ προσποιήσεις ἀνθρώπων περὶ θεοφορίας τὰ περὶ τὴν Πυθίαν καὶ τὰ λοιπὰ χρηστήρια· ἴδωμεν οὖν εἰ μὴ καὶ οὕτως δύναται τοῖς φιλαλήθως ἐξετάζουσι τὰ πράγματα ἀποδείκνυσθαι ὅτι καὶ τῷ παραδεχομένῳ εἶναι ταῦτα τὰ μαντεῖα οὐκ ἀναγκαῖον προσέσθαι ὅτι θεοί τινες εἰσὶ παρʼ αὐτοῖς, ἀλλʼ ἐκ τοῦ ἐναντίου δαίμονές τινες φαῦλοι καὶ πνεύματα ἐχθρὰ τῷ γένει τῶν ἀνθρώπων καὶ κωλύοντα τὴν τῆς ψυχῆς ἄνοδον καὶ διʼ ἀρετῆς πορείαν καὶ τῆς ἀληθινῆς εὐσεβείας ἀποκατάστασιν πρὸς τὸν θεόν. ἱστόρηται τοίνυν περὶ τῆς Πυθίας, ὅπερ δοκεῖ τῶν ἄλλων μαντείων λαμπρότερον τυγχάνειν. ὅτι περικαθεζομένη τὸ τῆς Κασταλίας στόμιον ἡ τοῦ Ἀπόλλωνος προφῆτις δέχεται πνεῦμα διὰ τῶν γυναικείων κόλπων· οὗ πληρωθεῖσα ἀποφθέγγεται τὰ νομιζόμενα εἶναι σεμνὰ καὶ θεῖα μαντεύματα. ὅρα δὴ διὰ τούτων εἰ μὴ τὸ τοῦ πνεύματος ἐκείνου ἀκάθαρτον καὶ βέβηλον ἐμφαίνεται, μὴ διὰ μανῶν καὶ ἀφανῶν πόρων καὶ πολλῷ γυναικείων κόλπων καθαρωτέρων ἐπεισιὸν τῇ ψυχῇ τῆς θεσπιζούσης ἀλλὰ διὰ τούτων, ἃ οὐδὲ θέμις ἦν τῷ σώφρονι καὶ ἀνθρώπῳ βλέπειν, οὔπω λέγεσθαι ἢ καὶ ἅπτεσθαι· καὶ τοῦτο ποιεῖν οὐχ ἅπαξ που οὐδὲ δὶς (ἴσως γὰρ ἔδοξεν ἀνεκτότερον τὸ τοιοῦτο τυγχάνειν), ἀλλὰ τοσαυτάκις, ὁσάκις προφητεύειν ἐκείνη ἀπὸ τοῦ Ἀπόλλωνος πεπίστευται. ἀλλὰ καὶ τὸ εἰς ἔκστασιν καὶ μανικὴν ἄγειν κατάστασιν τὴν δῆθεν προφητεύουσαν, ὡς μηδαμῶς αὐτὴν ἑαυτῇ παρακολουθεῖν, οὐ θείου πνεύματος ἔργον ἐστίν· ἐχρῆν γὰρ τὸν κάτοχον τῷ θείῳ πνεύματι πολλῷ πρότερον παντὸς οὑτινοσοῦν τοῦ ἀπὸ τῶν χρησμῶν διδασκομένου τὸ συμβαλλόμενον εἰς τὸν μέσον καὶ κατὰ φύσιν βίον ἢ πρὸς τὸ λυσιτελὲς ἢ πρὸς τὸ συμφέρον ὠφεληθῆναι καὶ διορατικώτερον παρʼ ἐκεῖνο μάλιστα καιροῦ τυγχάνειν, ὅτε σύνεστιν αὐτῷ τὸ θεῖον.

English · Claude translation

He says, then: The things foretold by the Pythian priestess, or the priestesses of Dodona, or the Clarian Apollo, or at Branchidae, or at the shrine of Ammon, and by countless other prophets, by whom practically the whole earth was colonized, they count as nothing; but what was said, or not said, in the manner of those people by the men in Judaea, as those around Phoenicia and Palestine are accustomed to do even now, these they think marvellous and unchangeable. Let us say, then, about the oracles he has listed, that we could collect from Aristotle and the Peripatetic philosophers a good deal to overthrow the belief in the Pythian priestess and the other oracles; and we could also quote what Epicurus and those who embrace his doctrine say about them, to show that some Greeks too overthrow the prophecies believed in and admired throughout Greece. But let it be granted that the matters of the Pythian priestess and the other oracles are not fictions or human pretences of divine inspiration. Let us see, then, whether even so it can be shown to those who examine the facts as lovers of truth that one who accepts that these oracles are real need not admit that there are gods in them, but rather certain evil demons and spirits hostile to the human race, which hinder the soul's ascent, its journey through virtue, and its restoration to God through true piety. It is recorded, then, about the Pythian priestess, whose oracle seems the most famous of all, that the prophetess of Apollo, sitting over the mouth of the Castalian cave, receives a spirit through her female parts; filled with it, she utters what are regarded as solemn and divine oracles. See from this whether the impurity and profanity of that spirit is not shown, since it enters the soul of the prophetess not through thin and invisible pores, far purer than a woman's parts, but through those which it would not be lawful for a chaste man to look at, much less to speak of or touch; and this not once or twice (for perhaps that would have seemed more tolerable), but as often as she is believed to prophesy from Apollo. Moreover, to bring the supposed prophetess into ecstasy and a frenzied state, so that she is in no way conscious of herself, is not the work of a divine spirit. For the one possessed by the divine Spirit ought, much more than anyone taught by the oracles, to be helped toward what contributes to ordinary life according to nature, whether toward what is profitable or what is advantageous, and to be most clear-sighted precisely at the time when the divine is with him.

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Source
Koetschau 2:154–155 · Paul Koetschau, ed., Origenes Werke 1–2: Gegen Celsus, GCS 2–3 (Leipzig: Hinrichs, 1899) · Greek text: P. Koetschau, Origenes Werke 1–2 (GCS 2–3, 1899), digitized by the Perseus Digital Library and published by the First Thousand Years of Greek project (Open Greek and Latin), CC BY-SA 4.0
Text
As printed in Koetschau, GCS 2–3. Manuscript variants and the editor's apparatus are not reproduced; no textual problem is noted in this passage.
Translation
Claude translation (claude-opus-5-5), 2026-09-27 · Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.
Compare
Ante-Nicene Fathers, vol. 4 (1885) (an older public-domain English translation, whole volume at CCEL; checked against ours only after ours was made)
Topics
Scripture and canon

Notes

Translation notes

  • The oracles named are Delphi (the Pythia), Dodona, Claros, Branchidae (Didyma), and the shrine of Ammon in Libya.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (missing accent in the digital text; missing breathing and accent in the digital text): τὰ δὲ ὑπο τῶν → τὰ δὲ ὑπὸ τῶν; μηδαμῶς αυτὴν → μηδαμῶς αὐτὴν.

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Origen, Cels. 7.3 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/7/3/).

Plain text
Origen, Cels. 7.3 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/7/3/).

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