Against Celsus 7.5
Summary: The spirits behind the oracles resemble evil souls that haunt tombs and feed on sacrifices; a true god at Delphi would have chosen a wise man, not an ordinary woman, as his prophet.
Greek text · Koetschau 2:156–157
Ἀλλὰ καὶ εἴπερ πεπίστευται οὐ παρὰ Χριστιανοῖς καὶ Ἰουδαίοις μόνοις ἀλλὰ καὶ παρʼ ἄλλοις πολλοῖς Ἑλλήνων καὶ βαρβάρων ὅτι ζῇ καὶ ὑπάρχει μετὰ τὸν ἀπὸ τοῦ σώματος χωρισμὸν ἡ ἀνθρωπίνη ψυχὴ, καὶ τῷ λόγῳ παρίσταται ὅτι ἡ μὲν καθαρὰ καὶ μὴ βαρουμένη ὑπὸ τῶν τῆς κακίας μολιβδίδων μετέωρος φέρεται ἐπὶ τοὺς τόπους τῶν καθαρωτέρων καὶ αἰθερίων σωμάτων, καταλιποῦσα τὰ τῇδε παχέα σώματα καὶ τὰ ἐν αὐτοῖς μιάσματα, ἡ δὲ φαύλη καὶ ὑπὸ τῶν ἁμαρτάδων καθελκομένη ἐπὶ τὴν γῆν καὶ μηδʼ ἀναπνεῦσαι δυναμένη τῇδε φέρεται καὶ καλινδεῖται, ἡ μέν τις ἐπὶ „τὰ μνήματα, “ ἔνθα καὶ ὤφθη σκιοειδῶν ψυχῶν „φαντάσματα, “ ἡ δέ τις ἁπαξαπλῶς περὶ τὴν γῆν· ποδαπὰ χρὴ νομίζειν εἶναι πνεύματα τὰ ὅλους. ἵνʼ οὕτως ὀνομάσω, αἰῶνας προσδεθέντα ὥσπερ εἴτε μαγγανείαις τισὶν εἴτε καὶ διὰ τὴν σφετέραν κακίαν οἰκοδομαῖς καὶ τόποις; ὁ λόγος δὴ αἱρεῖ φαῦλʼ ἄττα νομίζειν εἶναι τὰ τοιαῦτα, τῇ προγνωστικῇ δυνάμει μέσῃ τυγχανούσῃ εἰς ἀπάτην ἀνθρώπων χρώμενα καὶ πρὸς τὸ περισπάσαι αὐτοὺς ἀπὸ τοῦ θεοῦ καὶ τῆς καθαρᾶς εἰς αὐτὸν εὐσεβείας. δηλοῖ δὲ τὸ τοιοῦτον τοὺς αὐτοὺς τυγχάνειν καὶ τὸ ταῖς ἀπὸ τῶν θυσιῶν ἀναθυμιάσεσι καὶ ταῖς ἀπὸ τῶν αἱμάτων καὶ ὁλοκαυτωμάτων ἀποφοραῖς τρεφόμενα αὐτῶν τὰ σώματα, φιληδονούντων τοῖς τοιούτοις, ἐπʼ αὐτὸ τυγχάνειν τοῦ ὡσπερεὶ φιλοζωεῖν, ἀνάλογον φαύλοις ἀνθρώποις, οὐκ ἀσπαζομένοις μὲν τὸ καθαρώτερον ἔξω σωμάτων ζῆν, περιέπουσι δὲ διὰ τὰς σωματικὰς ἡδονὰς τὴν ἐν τῷ γεώδει σώματι ζωήν. εἴπερ δὲ θεὸς ἦν, ὡς Ἕλληνες οἴονται. ὁ ἐν Δελφοῖς Ἀπόλλων. τίνα μᾶλλον ἐχρῆν αὐτὸν ἐκλέξασθαι προφήτην ἢ τὸν σοφὸν ἢ μὴ εὑρισκομένου τοῦ τοιούτου κἂν τὸν προκόπτοντα; πῶς δʼ ἂν οὐκ ἄνδρα μᾶλλον προφητεύειν ἐβούλετο ἤπερ γυναῖκα; εἰ δὲ καὶ τὸ θῆλυ ἤθελεν, ὡς τάχα μὴ δυνάμενος ἢ μὴ τερπόμενος ἄλλῳ τινὶ ἢ τοῖς κόλποις τῶν γυναικῶν, πῶς οὐχὶ παρθένον μᾶλλον ἐχρῆν αὐτὸν ἐπιλέξασθαι ἤπερ γυναῖκα τὴν τὸ βούλημα αὐτοῦ θεσπίζουσαν;
English · Claude translation
Moreover, if it is believed not only among Christians and Jews but also among many others, Greeks and barbarians, that the human soul lives and exists after its separation from the body, and reason shows that the pure soul, not weighed down by the leaden weights of wickedness, is borne aloft to the regions of the purer and ethereal bodies, leaving behind the gross bodies here and the defilements in them, while the evil soul, dragged down to the earth by its sins and unable even to recover its breath, is borne about and rolls about here, one around “the tombs,” where “phantoms” of shadowy souls have been seen, another simply around the earth: what kind of spirits must we think those are that are bound, so to speak, for whole ages to buildings and places, whether by certain charms or because of their own wickedness? Reason chooses to think such things are evil, using the power of foreknowledge, which is morally neutral, to deceive men and to draw them away from God and from pure piety toward him. This is shown by the fact that the same beings, whose bodies are nourished by the vapours from sacrifices and the portions taken from blood and burnt offerings, and who take pleasure in such things, come to be, as it were, in love with life, like wicked men who do not welcome the purer life outside bodies but, for the sake of bodily pleasures, cling to life in the earthly body. And if the Apollo at Delphi were a god, as the Greeks think, whom should he rather have chosen as prophet than the wise man, or, if no such man were found, at least one making progress? How would he not have preferred a man to prophesy rather than a woman? And if he wanted the female sex, being perhaps unable to find pleasure in anything else or not delighting in anything but women's parts, why should he not have chosen a virgin rather than a woman to declare his will?
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- The shadowy phantoms around tombs come from Plato, Phaedo 81c–d.
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Origen, Cels. 7.5 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/7/5/).
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Origen, Cels. 7.5 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/7/5/).
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