Against Celsus 7.9
Summary: Celsus claims to have heard wandering prophets in Phoenicia and Palestine who called themselves God or God's son, threatened fire, promised salvation, and then babbled nonsense.
Greek text · Koetschau 2:160–161
Ἐπεὶ δὲ καὶ τὸν τρόπον τῶν ἐν Φοινίκῃ καὶ Παλαιστίνῃ μαντείων ἐπαγγέλλεται φράσειν ὁ Κέλσος ὡς ἀκούσας καὶ πάνυ καταμαθὼν, φέρε καὶ ταῦτα κατανοήσωμεν. πρῶτον δὴ λέγει πλείονα εἶναι εἴδη προφητειῶν, μὴ ἐκτιθέμενος αὐτά· οὐδὲ γὰρ εἶχεν, ἀλλὰ ψευδῶς ἐπανετείνετο. ὃ δέ φησιν εἶναι τελεώτατον παρὰ τοῖς τῇδε ἀνδράσιν ἴδωμεν. πολλοὶ, φησὶ. καὶ ἀνώνυμοι ῥᾷστα ἐκ τῆς προστυχούσης αἰτίας καὶ ἐν ἱεροῖς καὶ ἔξω ἱερῶν. οἱ δὲ καὶ ἀγείραντες καὶ ἐπιφοιτῶντες πόλεσιν ἢ στρατοπέδοις, κινοῦνται δῆθεν ὡς θεσπίζοντες. πρόχειρον δʼ ἑκάστῳ καὶ σύνηθες εἰπεῖν· ἐγὼ ὁ θεός εἰμι ἢ θεοῦ παῖς ἢ πνεῦμα θεῖον. ἥκω δέ· ἤδη γὰρ ὁ κόσμος ἀπόλλυται, καὶ ὑμεῖς, ὦ ἄνθρωποι, διὰ τὰς ἀδικίας οἴχεσθε. ἐγὼ δὲ σῶσαι θέλω· καὶ ὄψεσθέ με αὖθις μετʼ οὐρανίου δυνάμεως ἐπανιόντα. μακάριος ὁ νῦν με θρησκεύσας, τοῖς δʼ ἄλλοις ἅπασι πῦρ αἰώνιον ἐπιβαλῶ καὶ πόλεσι καὶ χώραις. καὶ ἄνθρωποι, οἳ μὴ τὰς ἑαυτῶν ποινὰς ἴσασι, μεταγνώσονται μάτην καὶ στενάξουσι· τοὺς δέ μοι πεισθέντας αἰωνίους φυλάξω. εἶτα τούτοις ἑξῆς φησι· ταῦτʼ ἐπανατεινάμενοι προστιθέασιν ἐφεξῆς ἄγνωστα καὶ πάροιστρα καὶ πάντῃ ἄδηλα, ὧν τὸ μὲν γνῶμα οὐδεὶς ἂν ἔχων νοῦν εὑρεῖν δύναιτο· ἀσαφῆ γὰρ καὶ τὸ μηδὲν, ἀνοήτῳ δὲ ἢ γόητι παντὶ περὶ παντὸς ἀφορμὴν ἐνδίδωσιν, ὅπῃ βούλεται, τὸ λεχθὲν σφετερίζεσθαι.
English · Claude translation
Since Celsus also promises to describe the manner of the prophecies in Phoenicia and Palestine, as one who has heard and thoroughly learned it, let us consider this too. First he says that there are several kinds of prophecies, without setting them out; for he could not, but was making a false boast. But let us look at what he says is the most perfect among the men of that region. Many, he says, nameless ones, very readily, on any chance occasion, both inside temples and outside temples; and others begging and roaming about cities or army camps, are moved as though uttering oracles. And it is ready to hand and customary for each to say: I am God, or a child of God, or a divine spirit. And I have come; for already the world is perishing, and you, O men, are going to destruction because of your injustices. But I wish to save you; and you will see me coming back again with heavenly power. Blessed is the one who worships me now; but on all the rest I will cast everlasting fire, both on cities and on lands. And men who do not know their own penalties will repent in vain and groan; but those who have been persuaded by me I will keep for ever. Then next he says: Having made these boasts, they add straightway unknown, frenzied, and wholly obscure words, whose meaning no one with sense could discover; for they are unclear and nothing, but they give occasion to any fool or sorcerer to take what was said in whatever sense he wishes about anything.
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- This passage is Celsus's description of contemporary prophets, perhaps of Christian or Montanist type; its accuracy is disputed.
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Origen, Cels. 7.9 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/7/9/).
Plain text
Origen, Cels. 7.9 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/7/9/).
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