Against Celsus 8.49

Summary: Celsus mocks Christians for both longing for the body's resurrection and consigning bodies to punishment, but agrees that the righteous will be happy and the wicked punished for ever; Origen answers that Christians value the rational soul above the body, and God is not a body as the Stoics say.

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Greek text · Koetschau 2:263–265

Ἴδωμεν δὲ καὶ τὰ ἑξῆς οὕτως λεγόμενα ὑπὸ τοῦ Κέλσου πρὸς ἡμᾶς· ἔτι δὲ πῶς οὐκ ἄτοπα ὑμῶν ταῦτα, τὸ μὲν σῶμα ποθεῖν καὶ ἐλπίζειν ὅτι αὐτὸ τοῦτο ἀναστήσεται ὡς οὐδὲν ἡμῖν τούτου κρεῖττον οὐδὲ τιμιώτερον, πάλιν δʼ αὐτὸ ῥίπτειν εἰς κολάσεις ὡς ἄτιμον; ἀλλὰ τοῖς μὲν τοῦτο πειθομένοις καὶ τῷ σώματι συντετηκόσιν οὐκ ἄξιον τοῦτο διαλέγεσθαι· οὗτοι γάρ εἰσιν οἱ καὶ τὰ ἄλλα ἄγροικοι καὶ ἀκάθαρτοι καὶ χωρὶς λόγου τῇ στάσει συννοσοῦντες· τοῖς μήν γε τὴν ψυχὴν ἢ τὸν νοῦν (εἴτε πνευματικὸν τοῦτον ἐθέλουσι καλεῖν εἴτε πνεῦμα νοερὸν ἅγιον καὶ μακάριον εἴτε ψυχὴν ζῶσαν εἴτε θείας καὶ ἀσωμάτου φύσεως ἔκγονον ὑπερουράνιόν τε καὶ ἄφθαρτον εἴθʼ ὅ τι καὶ ὅ τι χαίρουσιν ὀνομάζοντες), τοῖς τοῦτο ἐλπίζουσιν ἕξειν αἰώνιον σὺν θεῷ, τούτοις διαλέξομαι. τοῦτο μέν γε ὀρθῶς νομίζουσιν, ὡς οἱ μὲν εὖ βιώσαντες εὐδαιμονήσουσιν, οἱ δὲ ἄδικοι πάμπαν αἰωνίοις κακοῖς συνέξονται· καὶ τούτου δὲ τοῦ δόγματος μήθʼ οὗτοι μήτʼ ἄλλος ἀνθρώπων μηδείς ποτε ἀποστῇ † ἀποτείνοντες. περὶ ἀναστάσεως δὴ εἰ καὶ αὐτὸς ἤδη πολλάκις ὀνειδίζει, ἀλλʼ ἡμεῖς τὸ κατὰ τὸν τόπον ἡμῖν φανὲν εὔλογον, (ὡς) οἷόν τʼ ἦν, παραστήσαντες οὐ μέλλομεν πρὸς ἓν ἔγκλημα πολλάκις λεγόμενον πολλάκις ἀπολογεῖσθαι. συκοφαντεῖ δʼ ἡμᾶς ὁ Κέλσος ὡς οὐδὲν τοῦ σώματος κρεῖττον οὐδὲ τιμιώτερον ἐν τῇ συστάσει ἡμῶν ἡγουμένους· ψυχὴν γὰρ παντὸς σώματος καὶ μάλιστα τὴν λογικήν φαμεν εἶναι πρᾶγμα τιμιώτερον, εἰ καὶ τὸ „κατʼ εἰκόνα τοῦ κτίσαντος“ ψυχὴ μὲν χωρεῖ οὐδαμῶς δὲ τὸ σῶμα. οὐδὲ γὰρ καθʼ ἡμᾶς σῶμα ὁ θεός· ἵνα μὴ περιπέσωμεν οἷς περιπίπτουσιν ἀτόποις οἱ τὰ Ζήνωνος καὶ Χρυσίππου φιλοσοφοῦντες.

English · Claude translation

Let us see also what Celsus says to us next, as follows: “Moreover, is it not absurd of you, on the one hand to long for the body and hope that this very body will rise, as though we had nothing better or more precious than it, and on the other hand to cast it into punishments as dishonourable? But with those who believe this and are glued to the body it is not worth discussing this; for these are people who are also rustic and impure in other respects and, without reason, share in the sickness of sedition. But with those who hope that the soul or the mind (whether they wish to call it spiritual, or an intelligent spirit, holy and blessed, or a living soul, or the supercelestial and incorruptible offspring of a divine and incorporeal nature, or whatever they like to name it), with those who hope that this will have eternal life with God, with these I will discuss. They are right in thinking that those who have lived well will be happy, and the unjust will be held altogether in eternal evils; and from this doctrine let neither they nor any other man ever depart ….” As for the resurrection, even if he himself has often reproached us with it, we, having set out as well as we could what seemed reasonable to us on the subject, do not intend to reply many times to one charge made many times. Celsus slanders us as thinking there is nothing better or more precious than the body in our constitution; for we say that the soul, especially the rational soul, is more precious than any body, since the soul, and in no way the body, receives what is “after the image of him who created it.” For on our view God is not a body, lest we fall into the absurdities into which those who follow the philosophy of Zeno and Chrysippus fall.

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Koetschau 2:263–265 · Paul Koetschau, ed., Origenes Werke 1–2: Gegen Celsus, GCS 2–3 (Leipzig: Hinrichs, 1899) · Greek text: P. Koetschau, Origenes Werke 1–2 (GCS 2–3, 1899), digitized by the Perseus Digital Library and published by the First Thousand Years of Greek project (Open Greek and Latin), CC BY-SA 4.0
Text
As printed in Koetschau, GCS 2–3. Manuscript variants and the editor's apparatus are not reproduced; the problem in this passage is discussed in the notes.
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Claude translation (claude-opus-5-5), 2026-09-27 · Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.
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Ante-Nicene Fathers, vol. 4 (1885) (an older public-domain English translation, whole volume at CCEL; checked against ours only after ours was made)
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Translation notes

  • The quotation is Col 3:10. The text of Celsus is corrupt at its end (marked † in the edition, before ἀποτείνοντες); the final word is left untranslated (“…”). Zeno and Chrysippus, the Stoics, held that God is a body.

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Origen, Cels. 8.49 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/8/49/).

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Origen, Cels. 8.49 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/8/49/).

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