Against Marcion 2.27

Summary: God's human-like actions in the Old Testament belong to the Son, the Word who from the beginning dealt with patriarchs and prophets and was preparing to become man; the invisible Father is never seen, and God's humility is the means of human salvation.

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Latin text · CSEL 47:372–374

Iam nunc, ut et cetera compendio absoluam, quaecumque adhuc ut pusilla et infirma et indigna colligitis ad destructionem creatoris, simplici et certa ratione proponam: deum non potuisse humanos congressus inire, nisi humanos et sensus et adfectus suscepisset, per quos uim maiestatis suae, intolerabilem utique humanae mediocritati, humilitate temperaret, sibi quidem indigna, homini autem necessaria, et ita iam deo digna, quia nihil tam dignum deo quam salus hominis. de isto pluribus retractarem, si cum ethnicis agerem, — quamquam et cum haereticis non multo diuersa congressio — sed quatenus et ipsi deum in figura et in reliquo ordine humanae condicionis deuersatum iam credidistis, non exigetis utique diutius persuaderi deum conformasse semetipsum humanitati, sed de uestra fide reuincimini. si enim deus, et quidem sublimior, tanta humilitate fastigium maiestatis suae strauit, ut etiam morti subiceretur, et morti crucis, cur non putetis nostro quoque deo aliquas pusillitates congruisse, tolerabiliores tamen Iudaicis contumeliis et patibulis et sepulcris? an hae sunt pusillitates, quae iam hinc praeiudicare debebunt Christum humanis passionibus obiectum eius dei esse, cui humanitates exprobrantur a uobis? nam et profitemur Christum semper egisse in dei patris nomine, ipsum ab initio conuersatum, ipsum congressum cum patriarchis et prophetis, filium creatoris, sermonem eius, quem ex semetipso proferendo filium fecit et exinde omni dispositioni suae uoluntatique praefecit, diminuens illum modico citra angelos, sicut apud eum scriptum est. qua diminutione in haec quoque dispositus est a patre, quae ut humana reprehenditis, ediscens iam inde a primordio [iam inde hominem] quod erat futurus in fine. ille est, qui descendit, ille, qui interrogat, ille, qui postulat, ille, qui iurat. ceterum quia patrem nemini uisum etiam commune testabitur euangelium, dicente Christo: nemo cognouit patrem nisi filius. ipse enim et ueteri testamento pronuntiarat: deum nemo uidebit et uiuet, patrem inuisibilem determinans, in cuius auctoritate et nomine ipse erat deus, qui uidebatur dei filius. sed et penes nos Christus in persona Christi accipitur, quia et hoc modo noster est. igitur quaecumque exigitis deo digna, habebuntur in patre inuisibili incongressibilique et placido et, ut ita dixerim, philosophorum deo, quaecumque autem ut indigna reprehenditis, deputabuntur in filio et uiso et audito et congresso, arbitro patris et ministro, miscente in semetipso hominem et deum, in uirtutibus deum, in pusillitatibus hominem, ut tantum homini conferat quantum deo detrahit. totum denique dei mei penes uos dedecus sacramentum est humanae salutis. conuersabatur deus (humane,) ut homo diuine agere doceretur. ex aequo agebat deus cum homine, ut homo ex aequo agere cum deo posset. deus pusillus inuentus est, ut homo maximus fieret. qui talem deum dedignaris, nescio an ex fide credas deum crucifixum. quanta itaque peruersitas uestra erga utrumque ordinem creatoris? iudicem eum designatis, et seueritatem iudicis secundum merita causarum congruentem pro saeuitia exprobratis; deum optimum exigitis. et lenitatem eius benignitati congruentem, pro captu mediocritatis humanae deiectius conuersatam, ut pusillitatem depretiatis. nec magnus uobis placet nec modicus, nec iudex nec amicus. quid, si nunc eadem et in uestro deprehendantur? iudicem quidem et illum esse iam ostendimus in libello suo et de iudice necessarie seuerum et de seuero scilicet saeuum, si tamen saeuum.

English · Claude translation

Now, to dispose of the rest in brief — whatever else you collect as petty, weak, and unworthy, in order to destroy the Creator — I shall set out one simple and sure reason: God could not have entered into dealings with men unless he had taken on human feelings and affections, by which he might temper with humility the force of his majesty, which human smallness surely could not bear. This humility was unworthy of himself but necessary for man, and so already worthy of God, since nothing is so worthy of God as the salvation of man. I should treat this more fully if I were dealing with pagans — although the encounter with heretics is not very different — but since you yourselves already believe that God has lived in the form and the whole order of the human condition, you will surely not require long persuading that God conformed himself to humanity; you are refuted by your own faith. For if God — and a loftier god at that — laid low the height of his majesty with such humility as even to be subjected to death, and the death of the cross, why should you not think that some pettinesses befitted our God too — more tolerable, at any rate, than the insults of the Jews and the gibbet and the tomb? Or are these the pettinesses which must from now on prejudge that Christ, exposed to human sufferings, belongs to that God whom you reproach with human traits?

For we too profess that Christ always acted in the name of God the Father; that it was he himself who lived among men from the beginning, he himself who met with the patriarchs and prophets: the Son of the Creator, his Word, whom by bringing him forth from himself he made his Son, and thereafter set over his whole arrangement and will, making him a little lower than the angels, as is written in his Scripture. By this lowering he was also appointed by the Father to those things which you censure as human, learning even from the beginning what he was to be at the end. It is he who comes down, he who asks, he who demands, he who swears. Moreover, even the gospel we hold in common will testify that the Father has been seen by no one, since Christ says: “No one has known the Father except the Son.” For he himself had declared in the Old Testament too: “No one shall see God and live,” marking the Father as invisible, in whose authority and name he himself was God who was seen, the Son of God. But with us too Christ is received in the person of Christ, because in this way too he is ours. Whatever, then, you require as worthy of God will be found in the Father, invisible and unapproachable and serene, the god, so to speak, of the philosophers; but whatever you censure as unworthy will be reckoned to the Son, who was seen and heard and met with, the Father's agent and minister, mingling in himself man and God — God in mighty works, man in weaknesses — so that he confers on man as much as he takes from God.

In short, the whole of what you count my God's disgrace is the sacrament of human salvation. God lived among men in human fashion so that man might be taught to act in divine fashion. God dealt with man as an equal so that man might be able to deal with God as an equal. God was found small so that man might become very great. You who disdain such a God — I do not know whether you believe, in faith, in a crucified God. How great, then, is your perversity toward both aspects of the Creator! You designate him a judge, and reproach as cruelty the judge's severity, which fits the merits of the cases; you demand a supremely good God, and belittle as pettiness his gentleness, which fits his kindness and has been conducted more humbly to suit the capacity of human smallness. Neither the great God pleases you nor the small, neither the judge nor the friend. What if the same things are now detected in yours as well? We have already shown in its own book that he too is a judge, and, being a judge, necessarily severe, and, being severe, of course cruel — if severity is cruel at all.

About this passage

Source
CSEL 47:372–374 · Emil Kroymann, ed., Quinti Septimi Florentis Tertulliani Opera, Pars 3, CSEL 47 (Vienna: Tempsky; Leipzig: Freytag, 1906), 290–650 · Latin text: Emil Kroymann (CSEL 47), digitized by Open Greek and Latin, University of Leipzig (csel-dev), CC BY-SA 4.0
Text
As printed in CSEL 47. Manuscript variants and the editor's apparatus are not reproduced; the problem in this passage is discussed in the notes.
Translation
Claude translation (claude-opus-5-5), 2026-09-27 · Translated by Claude from the Latin text of CSEL 47; made independently of existing English translations.
Compare
Ante-Nicene Fathers, vol. 3 (1885) (an older public-domain English translation, whole volume at CCEL; checked against ours only after ours was made)
Scripture
Extrabiblical texts
  • Tertullian, Prax. (Against Praxeas) · echo, low confidence
Topics
Heresy, Christology, Trinity

Notes

Translation notes

  • The death of the cross is Phil 2:8; “a little lower than the angels,” Ps 8:5 (cf. Heb 2:7); “No one has known the Father except the Son,” Matt 11:27 and Luke 10:22 (a saying also in Marcion's Gospel, hence “the gospel we hold in common”); “No one shall see God and live,” Exod 33:20; “unapproachable” echoes 1 Tim 6:16. The sentence “with us too Christ is received in the person of Christ” is obscure as printed. On the Word brought forth and made Son, compare Tertullian, Against Praxeas. The editor deletes “iam inde hominem” (“even then as man”) as spurious; it is left out of the translation. Corrections: “nescie” read as “nescio”, “ludaicis” as “Iudaicis”.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (Line-break hyphen and stray comma in the digital text.; Line-break hyphen and stray letters in the digital text.; OCR: I read as l.; OCR: o read as e; stray comma.; Stray letter (line marker) in the digital text.): temperaret. I sibi → temperaret, sibi; ludaicis → Iudaicis; habe- Ii buntur → habebuntur; nescie, an → nescio an; desi-, gnatis → designatis.

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Tertullian, Marc. 2.27 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/tertullian-marcionem/2/27/).

Plain text
Tertullian, Marc. 2.27 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/tertullian-marcionem/2/27/).

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