Against Marcion 3.11
Summary: Marcion denied Christ's real flesh to avoid his birth, but a real birth is no more unworthy of God than a real death; if Christ had flesh he was born, as the prophets foretold.
Latin text · CSEL 47:393–395
Totas istas praestigias putatiuae in Christo corpulentiae Marcion illa intentione suscepit, ne ex testimonio substantiae humanae natiuitas quoque eius defenderetur atque ita Christus creatoris uindicaretur, ut qui nascibilis ac per hoc carneus adnuntiaretur. stultissime et hic Ponticus: quasi non facilius crederetur in deo caro non nata quam falsa, praestruentibus uel maxime fidem istam angelis creatoris in carne uera conuersatis nec tamen nata. nam et Philumene illa magis persuasit Appelli ceterisque desertoribus Marcionis ex fide quidem Christum circumtulisse carnem, nullius tamen natiuitatis, utpote de elementis eam mutuatum. quodsi uerebatur Marcion, ne fides carnis natiuitatis quoque fidem induceret, sine dubio qui homo uidebatur natus utique credebatur. nam et mulier quaedam exclamauerat: beatus uenter, qui te portauit, et ubera, quae hausisti. et quomodo mater et fratres eius dicti sunt foris stare? certe, cum et ipse se filium hominis praedicaret, natum scilicet profitebatur. et uidebimus de his capitulis suo in tempore: nunc, ut haec omnia ad euangelii distulerim examinationem, tamen quod supra statui: si omni modo natus credi habebat qui homo uidebatur, uane natiuitatis fidem consilio imaginariae carnis expugnandam putauit. quid enim profuit non uere fuisse quod pro uero haberetur. tam carnem quam natiuitatem? aut si dixeris: uiderit opinio humana, iam deum tuum honoras fallaciae titulo, si aliud se sciebat esse quam quod homines fecerat opinari, iam tu potuisti etiam natiuitatem putatiuam illi accommodasse, ne in hanc quoque impegisses quaestionem. nam et mulierculae nonnumquam praegnantes sibi uidentur, aut sanguinis tributo aut aliqua ualitudine inflatae. et utique debuerat phantasmati?I scaenam decucurrisse, ne originem carnis non desaltasset qui personam substantiae ipsius egisset. plane natiuitatis mendacium recusasti: ipsam enim carnem ueram edidisti. turpissimum scilicet dei etiam uera natiuitas. age iam, perora in illa sanctissima et reuerenda opera naturae, inuehere in totum quod es; carnis atque animae originem destrue; cloacam uoca uterum, tanti animalis, id est hominis, producendi officinam: persequere et partus inmunda et pudenda tormenta et ipsius exinde puerperii spurcos anxios ludicros exitus: tamen, cum omnia ista destruxeris, ut deo indigna confirmes, non erit indignior morte natiuitas et cruce infantia et natura poena et caro damnatione. si uere ista passus est Christus. minus fuit nasci; si mendacio passus est, ut phantasma, potuit: et mendacio nasci. summa ista Marcionis argumenta. per quae alium efficit Christum, satis, opinor, ostendimus nOli i consistere omnino, dum docemus magis utique competere deo ueritatem quam mendacium eius habitus, in quo Christum suum exhibuit. si ueritas fuit, caro fuit, si caro fuit, natus est. ea enim, quae expugnat haec haeresis, confirmantur, cum ea, per quae expugnat, destruuntur. itaque, si carneus habebitur, quia natus, et natus, quia carneus, quia phantasma non fuerit, ipse erit agnoscendus, qui in carne et ex natiuitate uenturus adnuntiabatur a creatoris prophetis. utpote Christus creatoris.
English · Claude translation
Marcion took up all these conjuring tricks of a supposed bodiliness in Christ with this purpose: that his birth too should not be established from the evidence of human substance, and so Christ be claimed for the Creator, as one announced as capable of birth and therefore made of flesh. Very foolish here too, the man from Pontus: as if flesh in God were not more easily believed unborn than false, especially when the Creator's angels, who lived in true flesh and yet unborn, lay the groundwork for that belief. For that Philumene, too, rather persuaded Apelles and the other deserters from Marcion that Christ did carry flesh about in reality, yet flesh of no birth, as having borrowed it from the elements. But if Marcion feared that belief in flesh would also bring in belief in birth, then without doubt one who was seen to be a man was certainly believed to have been born. For a certain woman had cried out, “Blessed is the womb that bore you, and the breasts you sucked”; and how were his mother and brothers said to be standing outside? Certainly, when he proclaimed himself the Son of Man, he was professing that he was born. We shall see about these passages in their proper time. For now, though I have put all these off to the examination of the gospel, still, as I laid down above: if one who was seen to be a man was bound in any case to be believed born, he thought in vain that belief in his birth could be overthrown by the device of imaginary flesh. For what did it profit that both flesh and birth were not real, when they were held to be real? Or if you say, “Let human opinion see to that,” you already honor your god with the title of deceit, if he knew himself to be other than he had made men think. Then you could equally have fitted him with a supposed birth, so as not to run into this question as well. For little women sometimes think themselves pregnant, swollen either by the tribute of blood or by some illness. And surely he ought to have played the phantom's stage-part through to the end, so that one who had acted the role of the substance itself should not leave out in his dance the origin of the flesh. Plainly you rejected the lie of a birth, for you put forward flesh itself as real. A real birth, no doubt, is the most shameful thing even for God! Come then, declaim against those most holy and venerable works of nature, inveigh against all that you are; destroy the origin of flesh and soul; call the womb a sewer, the workshop for producing so great a living being, that is, man; pursue the uncleanness and the shameful torments of childbirth, and the filthy, anxious, ridiculous outcome of the delivery itself. Yet when you have destroyed all these, to confirm that they are unworthy of God, birth will not be more unworthy than death, nor infancy than the cross, nor nature than punishment, nor flesh than condemnation. If Christ truly suffered these things, to be born was less; if he suffered them by a lie, as a phantom, he could also be born by a lie. These are the chief arguments of Marcion by which he makes Christ another's; I think we have shown well enough that they do not stand at all, while we teach that the reality of the condition in which God exhibited his Christ befits him far more than a lie. If it was reality, it was flesh; if it was flesh, he was born. For the things this heresy attacks are confirmed when the things by which it attacks are destroyed. So if he is to be held fleshly because born, and born because fleshly, because he was not a phantom, then he is to be recognized as the one whom the Creator's prophets announced as coming in the flesh and by birth, as being the Creator's Christ.
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Translation notes
- Philumene was a visionary associated with Apelles, Marcion's former disciple. The gospel passages are Luke 11:27, Luke 8:20, and the title Son of Man; Tertullian postpones them to Book 4. The digital text has several stray letters and “merdacium” for mendacium; “phantasmati?I” is read as phantasmatis (the phantom's).
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; stray letter): merdacium → mendacium; tributo I aut → tributo aut; qui i personam → qui personam; competere i deo → competere deo; natus i est → natus est; cum I ea → cum ea.
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Tertullian, Marc. 3.11 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/tertullian-marcionem/3/11/).
Plain text
Tertullian, Marc. 3.11 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/tertullian-marcionem/3/11/).
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