Miscellanies 1.15.68

Summary: Many barbarian peoples philosophized about divine things; Plato honored them, knowing that he and Pythagoras learned their best doctrines from them.

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Greek text · Stählin 2:42–43

καὶ μοι δοκοῦσιν αἰσθόμενοι τῆς μεγάλης εὐποιίας τῆς διὰ τῶν σοφῶν σεβασθῆναί τε τοὺς ἄνδρας καὶ δημοσίᾳ φιλοσοφῆσαι. Βραχμᾶνές τε σύμπαντες καὶ Ὀδρύσαι καὶ Γέται καὶ τὸ τῶν Αἰγυπτίων γένος ἐθεολόγησαν ἀκριβῶς τὰ ἐκείνων, Χαλδαῖοί τε καὶ Ἀράβιοι οἱ κληθέντες εὐδαίμονες καὶ ὅσοι γε τὴν Παλαιστίνην κατῴκησαν καὶ τοῦ Περσικοῦ γένους οὐ τὸ ἐλάχιστον μέρος καὶ ἄλλα πρὸς τούτοις γένη μυρία. ὁ δὲ Πλάτων δῆλον ὡς σεμνύνων αἰεὶ τοὺς βαρβάρους εὑρίσκεται, μεμνημένος αὐτοῦ τε καὶ Πυθαγόρου τὰ πλεῖστα καὶ γενναιότατα τῶν δογμάτων ἐν βαρβάροις μαθόντος. διὰ τοῦτο καὶ γένη βαρβάρων εἶπεν, γένη φιλοσόφων ἀνδρῶν βαρβάρων γινώσκων, ἔν τε τῷ Φαίδρῳ τὸν Αἰγύπτιον βασιλέα καὶ τοῦ Θωὺθ ἡμῖν σοφώτερον δείκνυσιν, ὅντινα Ἑρμῆν οἶδεν ὄντα. ἀλλὰ κἀν τῷ Χαρμίδῃ Θρᾷκάς τινας ἐπιστάμενος φαίνεται, οἳ λέγονται ἀθανατίζειν τὴν ψυχήν.

English · Claude translation

And it seems to me that, perceiving the great benefit that comes through the wise, they both revered these men and philosophized publicly. All the Brahmins, the Odrysians, the Getae, and the race of the Egyptians theologized exactly about their teachings, as did the Chaldeans and the Arabians called Happy, and those who lived in Palestine, and not the least part of the Persian race, and countless other races besides. Plato is clearly found always honoring the barbarians, remembering that both he and Pythagoras learned most and the noblest of their doctrines among barbarians. That is why he spoke of “races of barbarians,” knowing of races of barbarian philosophers; and in the Phaedrus he shows the Egyptian king wiser even than Thoth, whom he knows to be Hermes. And in the Charmides he shows that he knows certain Thracians who are said to make the soul immortal.

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Stählin 2:42–43 · Otto Stählin, ed., Clemens Alexandrinus, vol. 2, Stromata Buch I–VI, GCS 15 (Leipzig: Hinrichs, 1906); vol. 3, Stromata Buch VII und VIII, GCS 17 (Leipzig: Hinrichs, 1909) · Greek text: Otto Stählin, Clemens Alexandrinus 2–3 (GCS 15, 17, 1906–1909), digitized by the Perseus Digital Library, CC BY-SA 4.0
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Claude translation (claude-opus-5-5), 2026-09-27 · Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Stählin (1906–1909); made independently of existing English translations.
Extrabiblical texts
  • Plato, Phaedrus 274c–275b; Charmides 156d (Plato (works)) · allusion, high confidence
Topics
Scripture and canon

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  • The references are Plato, Phaedrus 274c–275b, and Charmides 156d.

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Clement of Alexandria, Strom. 1.15.68 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/clement-stromata/1/15/68/).

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Clement of Alexandria, Strom. 1.15.68 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/clement-stromata/1/15/68/).

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