Miscellanies 1.15.69

Summary: Pythagoras, Plato, and Eudoxus studied with Egyptian priests; Plato tells how an Egyptian taught Solon that the Greeks are children; Democritus learned from Babylon, Persia, and Egypt.

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Greek text · Stählin 2:43–44

Ἱστορεῖται δὲ Πυθαγόρας μὲν Σώγχιδι τῷ Αἰγυπτίῳ ἀρχιπροφήτῃ μαθητεῦσαι, Πλάτων δὲ Σεχνούφιδι τῷ Ἡλιοπολίτῃ, Εὔδοξος δὲ ὁ Κνίδιος Κονούφιδι τῷ καὶ αὐτῷ Αἰγυπτίῳ. ἐν δὲ τῷ περὶ ψυχῆς Πλάτων πάλιν προφητείαν γνωρίζων φαίνεται, προφήτην εἰσάγων τὸν τῆς Λαχέσεως λόγον ἐξαγγέλλοντα πρὸς τὰς κληρουμένας ψυχὰς καὶ προθεσπίζοντα. κἀν τῷ Τιμαίῳ τὸν σοφώτατον Σόλωνα μανθάνοντα εἰσάγει πρὸς τοῦ βαρβάρου. ἔχει δὲ τὰ τῆς λέξεως ὧδε· ὦ Σόλων, Σόλων, Ἕλληνες ὑμεῖς αἰεὶ παῖδές ἐστε, γέρων δὲ Ἕλλην οὐδείς· οὐ γὰρ ἔχετε μάθημα χρόνῳ πολιόν. Δημόκριτος γὰρ τοὺς Βαβυλωνίους λόγους † ἠθικοὺς πεποίηται· λέγεται γὰρ τὴν Ἀκικάρου στήλην ἑρμηνευθεῖσαν τοῖς ἰδίοις συντάξαι συγγράμμασι κἄστιν ἐπισημήνασθαι παρʼ αὐτοῦ, τάδε λέγει Δημόκριτος γράφοντος. ναὶ μὴν καὶ περὶ αὑτοῦ ᾗ σεμνυνόμενός φησί που ἐπὶ τῇ πολυμαθίᾳ· ἐγὼ δὲ τῶν κατʼ ἐμαυτὸν ἀνθρώπων γῆν πλείστην ἐπεπλανησάμην, ἱστορέων τὰ μήκιστα, καὶ ἀέρας τε καὶ γέας πλείστας εἶδον, καὶ λογίων ἀνθρώπων πλείστων ἐπήκουσα, καὶ γραμμέων συνθέσι μετὰ ἀποδείξεως οὐδείς κώ με παρήλλαξεν, οὐδʼ οἱ Αἰγυπτίων καλεόμενοι Ἁρπεδονάπται, σὺν τοῖς δʼ ἐπὶ πᾶσιν ἐπʼ ἔτεα ὀγδώκοντα ἐπὶ ξείνης ἐγενήθην. ἐπῆλθε γὰρ Βαβυλῶνά τε καὶ Περσίδα καὶ Αἴγυπτον τοῖς τε Μάγοις καὶ τοῖς ἱερεῦσι μαθητεύων. Ζωροάστρην δὲ τὸν Μάγον τὸν Πέρσην ὁ Πυθαγόρας ἐζήλωσεν, καὶ βίβλους ἀποκρύφους τἀνδρὸς τοῦδε οἱ τὴν Προδίκου μετιόντες αἵρεσιν αὐχοῦσι κεκτῆσθαι.

English · Claude translation

It is recorded that Pythagoras was a pupil of Sonchis, the Egyptian chief prophet; Plato of Sechnuphis of Heliopolis; and Eudoxus of Cnidus of Conuphis, also an Egyptian. And in his work on the soul, Plato again appears to know of prophecy, introducing a prophet who announces the word of Lachesis to the souls drawing their lots and foretells. And in the Timaeus he introduces the most wise Solon learning from the barbarian. The words run thus: “O Solon, Solon, you Greeks are always children, and there is no old Greek; for you have no learning gray with time.” Democritus made the Babylonian … ethical teachings his own; for he is said to have added to his own writings a translation of the stele of Acicarus, and one can note it by his writing “Thus says Democritus.” Indeed, somewhere, priding himself on his wide learning, he says of himself: “I have wandered over more of the earth than any man of my time, investigating the most distant things; I have seen the most climates and lands, and heard the most learned men; and in the composition of lines with demonstration no one ever surpassed me, not even the Egyptians called rope-stretchers; with all these I spent eighty years abroad.” For he went to Babylon, Persia, and Egypt, studying with the Magi and the priests. Pythagoras emulated Zoroaster the Persian Magus; and the followers of the heresy of Prodicus boast that they possess secret books of this man.

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Stählin 2:43–44 · Otto Stählin, ed., Clemens Alexandrinus, vol. 2, Stromata Buch I–VI, GCS 15 (Leipzig: Hinrichs, 1906); vol. 3, Stromata Buch VII und VIII, GCS 17 (Leipzig: Hinrichs, 1909) · Greek text: Otto Stählin, Clemens Alexandrinus 2–3 (GCS 15, 17, 1906–1909), digitized by the Perseus Digital Library, CC BY-SA 4.0
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Claude translation (claude-opus-5-5), 2026-09-27 · Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Stählin (1906–1909); made independently of existing English translations.
Extrabiblical texts
  • Plato, Republic 10.617d; Timaeus 22b (Plato (works)) · quotation, high confidence
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Scripture and canon

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  • The references are Plato, Republic 10.617d (the soul's lots), and Timaeus 22b; Democritus, fragment 299 (Diels–Kranz). “Acicarus” is Ahiqar, hero of an ancient Near Eastern wisdom book. The text is corrupt in one place (dagger).

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  • Digital text corrected (misspelling in the digital text; wrong accent on καὶ): Κονούφιδι τῷ καἰ αὐτῷ → Κονούφιδι τῷ καὶ αὐτῷ; ἐπʼ ἔτἐ ὀγδώκοντα → ἐπʼ ἔτεα ὀγδώκοντα.

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Clement of Alexandria, Strom. 1.15.69 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/clement-stromata/1/15/69/).

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Clement of Alexandria, Strom. 1.15.69 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/clement-stromata/1/15/69/).

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