Octavius
Octavius
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- 1.1The author, remembering his dead friend Octavius, feels as if he were living the past again.
- 1.2The less he can see Octavius, the more his friend lives in his heart.
- 1.3Octavius loved his friend so much that they seemed to share one mind.
- 1.4Octavius shared the author's former errors and came to the truth before him.
- 1.5The author chooses to record the debate in which Octavius converted Caecilius.
- 2.1Octavius had come to Rome, leaving his wife and small children at home.
- 2.2The author was overjoyed at his friend's unexpected arrival.
- 2.3During the grape-harvest holidays the friends went to Ostia for sea bathing.
- 2.4On the beach Caecilius blew a kiss to a statue of Serapis, as pagans did.
- 3.1Octavius rebukes Marcus for letting his friend Caecilius worship stone idols.
- 3.2Talking, they reached the open beach.
- 3.3They walked at the water's edge, enjoying the gentle waves.
- 3.4Octavius told them about a sea voyage as they walked.
- 3.5On the way back they saw boys skipping shells on the water.
- 3.6The boys competed to see whose skipped shell went farthest and bounced most.
- 4.1Caecilius stood apart, silent and troubled.
- 4.2Marcus asks Caecilius why he is so gloomy.
- 4.3Caecilius says Octavius's rebuke has stung him, since it indirectly called him ignorant.
- 4.4Caecilius challenges Octavius to a formal debate.
- 4.5Caecilius suggests they sit on the breakwater to debate.
- 4.6Marcus sits between the two as the judge of the debate.
- 5.1Caecilius asks Marcus, though a Christian, to judge the debate impartially.
- 5.2Caecilius argues that everything in human affairs is uncertain.
- 5.3Many people, tired of searching, accept any opinion at random.
- 5.4Caecilius is indignant that uneducated Christians claim certainty about matters philosophers still debate.
- 5.5Humans cannot know heavenly things and should be content to know themselves.
- 5.6If we must speculate about the heavens, let us at least avoid frightening superstitions.
- 5.7If the world arose from natural or chance causes, there is no need for a creator god or religious fear.
- 5.8Living things simply combine from and dissolve back into the elements, with no creator or judge.
- 5.9Weather and lightning arise naturally and strike the pious and the guilty alike.
- 5.10Disasters kill good and bad without distinction.
- 5.11In peacetime the wicked often prosper.
- 5.12If providence ruled, tyrants would not reign nor good men suffer.
- 5.13Harvests are ruined at random: either truth is hidden or blind chance rules.
- 6.1Caecilius argues it is better to keep the ancestral religion, as every people worships its own gods.
- 6.2Rome won its empire by its piety, even adopting the gods of conquered peoples.
- 6.3Roman religion grows more venerable with age.
- 7.1The Roman ancestors had good reason for their religious rites.
- 7.2Rites were begun to thank the gods or to turn away their anger.
- 7.3Caecilius lists famous Roman stories as proof of the gods' presence.
- 7.4Roman disasters followed contempt for the auspices.
- 7.5Rome's temples are made sacred by the gods who dwell in them.
- 7.6Prophets and dreams show the gods are real.
- 8.1Caecilius cannot tolerate anyone attacking a religion that all nations agree on.
- 8.2Even famous atheist philosophers never gained real authority.
- 8.3If Athens punished Protagoras, how much worse is the Christians' attack on the gods.
- 8.4Caecilius describes Christians as a secret, low-class conspiracy that despises the gods.
- 8.5Christians scorn present tortures out of fear of future punishment and hope of resurrection.
- 9.1Caecilius says the Christian sect is spreading everywhere and must be destroyed.
- 9.2Caecilius repeats the rumour that Christian 'brothers and sisters' commit incest.
- 9.3Caecilius repeats the slander that Christians worship an ass's head.
- 9.4Caecilius mocks Christians for worshipping a crucified criminal and repeats other obscene rumours.
- 9.5Caecilius repeats the slander that Christian initiates kill and eat a baby.
- 9.6Caecilius describes the rumoured Christian banquet that ends in the lamp being knocked over.
- 9.7In the dark, the rumour says, they commit incest at random.
- 10.1Caecilius says Christian secrecy proves the rumours true.
- 10.2Why do Christians have no temples, altars, or images, and meet in secret, unless they have something to hide?
- 10.4Even the Jews' one God was defeated along with his people by Rome.
- 10.5Caecilius mocks the idea of an invisible God who sees everything.
- 10.8Who is this lonely God whom no nation knows?
- 11.1Caecilius ridicules the Christian belief that the world will end in fire.
- 11.2Christians believe the dead will rise from their ashes.
- 11.3They predict the end of the stars but eternity for themselves.
- 11.4Christians reject cremation, though every body decays anyway.
- 11.5Christians promise heaven to themselves and hell to others, yet they themselves believe everything is determined.
- 11.6Christians attribute everything to God's choice, as others do to fate.
- 11.7Caecilius asks what kind of body could rise again.
- 11.8No one has ever come back from the dead.
- 11.9The resurrection is a poets' fable that Christians have borrowed.
- 12.1Caecilius tells Christians to learn from their present misery.
- 12.2Most Christians are poor, so their God is either weak or unjust.
- 12.3Sickness should teach Christians their mortality.
- 12.4Why does God not rescue Christians from torture and execution?
- 12.5Romans prosper without the Christian God, while Christians shun public festivities connected with the gods.
- 12.6Christians deny themselves life's pleasures and gain nothing hereafter.
- 12.7Uneducated people should not speculate about divine matters.
- 13.1Caecilius commends Socrates' refusal to speculate about the heavens.
- 13.2Socrates was wisest because he knew he knew nothing.
- 13.3The sceptical Academy learned from Socrates to suspend judgment.
- 13.4Simonides kept postponing his answer about the gods because the question grew harder.
- 13.5Caecilius concludes that doubtful questions about the gods should be left undecided.
- 14.1Caecilius finishes and taunts Octavius.
- 14.2Marcus tells Caecilius not to celebrate before Octavius has replied.
- 14.4Listeners are easily misled by eloquence.
- 14.5Those often deceived end up doubting everything.
- 14.6Disillusionment with arguments should not become distrust of everything, as disillusion with people can.
- 14.7Every point should be weighed carefully, praising cleverness but choosing what is true.
- 14.8Marcus worries that eloquence can make even plain truth look otherwise.
- 15.1Caecilius protests that Marcus is weakening his case before Octavius replies.
- 15.2Marcus explains his remarks and invites Octavius (Januarius) to reply.
- 16.1Octavius begins his reply by pointing out that Caecilius contradicted himself.
- 16.2Caecilius both affirmed the gods and claimed to be undecided, but not from cunning.
- 16.3Like a traveller unsure of the way at a fork, Caecilius wavers without a firm judgment.
- 16.4Octavius promises to establish one truth that will settle Caecilius's doubts.
- 16.5All people, rich or poor, are born capable of reason; wisdom has often come from the poor.
- 16.6What matters is not who argues but whether the argument is true; plain speech makes truth clearer.
- 17.1Octavius agrees that people should know themselves and ask where they come from.
- 17.2To know ourselves we must know God; humans, unlike beasts, are made to look up to heaven.
- 17.3Those who think the world arose by chance are blind.
- 17.4Looking at the world shows plainly that a supreme mind governs it.
- 17.5The heavens, the year, and the month show a divine order.
- 17.6Day and night and the stars' usefulness show the work of a supreme Maker.
- 17.7The regular seasons testify to their Creator.
- 17.8Spring and autumn soften the shift between winter and summer.
- 17.9Sea, trees, tides, springs, and rivers all follow ordered laws.
- 17.10The landscape and animals' natural defences show design.
- 17.11The human body itself shows that God designed it.
- 18.1Every part of the body is both useful and beautiful, and each person is distinct.
- 18.2God gave the desire for children and the mother's milk.
- 18.3God provides for each region, as rivers and seas supply what the land lacks.
- 18.4As an orderly house implies a master, the ordered world implies a Lord.
- 18.5Earthly kingdoms help show whether heaven is ruled by one or many.
- 18.6Shared rule always ends in bloodshed, as history shows.
- 18.7As nature has single rulers, so the one eternal God rules all by his word.
- 18.8God is beyond sight, touch, and measure, known fully only to himself.
- 18.9Claiming to know God's greatness diminishes it; 'God' is his only name.
- 18.10God needs no personal name, since human titles would make him seem earthly.
- 18.11Common speech ('God is great', 'God willing') witnesses to one God.
- 19.1The poets too speak of one father of gods and men.
- 19.2Virgil speaks of a single divine spirit and mind pervading the world.
- 19.3The philosophers, in substance, agree with the Christian idea of God as mind and spirit.
- 19.4Thales held that God is the mind that formed everything from water.
- 19.5Anaximenes and Diogenes also held that one infinite principle is God.
- 19.6Anaxagoras and Pythagoras held God to be an infinite mind or world-soul.
- 19.7Xenophanes, Antisthenes, and Speusippus also pointed to one God.
- 19.8Even atomists and Epicurus acknowledged a supreme nature.
- 19.9Aristotle and Heraclides, though inconsistent, recognize one divine power.
- 19.10The Stoics, despite differences, agree on one providence and explain the gods as natural elements.
- 19.11Chrysippus also explains the poets' gods as natural forces.
- 19.12Diogenes of Babylon interprets the myths as describing nature, not gods.
- 19.13Xenophon and Ariston recognized that God cannot be seen or grasped.
- 19.14Plato calls God the maker and father of the world, hard to find and impossible to declare publicly.
- 19.15Plato's view is almost the Christian view of God.
- 20.1The philosophers taught one God under many names, as if they were Christians.
- 20.2Ancient tradition should not override the philosophers' reasoned case for one God.
- 20.3Our ancestors believed in monsters and fables.
- 20.4Tales of people turned into animals or plants are impossible, since such things never happen now.
- 20.5The gods began as dead kings whose memorial statues came to be worshipped.
- 20.6Each nation honoured its founders and benefactors, who later became gods.
- 21.1Euhemerus showed that the gods were once men, with known birthplaces and tombs.
- 21.2Prodicus and Persaeus say the gods were discoverers of useful crops.
- 21.3Alexander the Great learned from a priest that the gods were men.
- 21.4Ancient historians agree that Saturn was a man.
- 21.5Saturn fled to Italy and taught the natives the arts.
- 21.6Place names like Latium and Janiculum come from Saturn and Janus.
- 21.7Saturn was a man called son of Heaven or Earth only because his parents were unknown.
- 21.8Jupiter lived, reigned, and died in Crete, where his tomb is still shown.
- 21.9Deified kings like Romulus and Juba were honoured, not truly believed to be gods.
- 21.10The divine has neither beginning nor end, so born or dead men cannot be gods.
- 21.11If gods were born, why are no new gods born now?
- 21.12Gods who were born and died must have been men, as the rites of Isis and Osiris show.
- 22.1The rites of Isis act out a yearly loss and finding of her son.
- 22.2It is absurd to mourn one's gods; the Eleusinian rites act out Ceres' search for her daughter.
- 22.3Jupiter's rites recall his being hidden as a baby from his devouring father.
- 22.4Cybele's priests castrate themselves in memory of her shameful myth.
- 22.5The strange forms of the gods in statues show how absurd they are.
- 22.6Jupiter appears in many contradictory forms under different titles.
- 22.7Myths make gods out of those who died violent deaths.
- 23.1Children learn myths from parents, school, and poets, who harm the truth.
- 23.2Plato rightly banished Homer from his ideal city.
- 23.3Homer showed the gods fighting and wounded in the Trojan War.
- 23.4Homer tells shameful stories of Jupiter's weakness and lust.
- 23.5Gods are shown doing menial labour, even cheated of their pay.
- 23.6Poets say Vulcan forged Jupiter's thunderbolt, though lightning is older than Jupiter.
- 23.7Myths of divine adultery and lust give authority to human vice.
- 23.8Children raised on myths grow old in error, though truth is available to seekers.
- 23.9People worship images because they are dazzled by precious materials.
- 23.10Anyone who saw how idols are made would be ashamed to fear them.
- 23.11A wooden idol is made from a log like any other.
- 23.12Metal and stone idols feel neither their making nor their worship.
- 23.13An idol becomes a 'god' only when people choose to dedicate it.
- 24.1Animals treat idols as senseless objects, nesting on them.
- 24.2People worship out of habit and inherited error, and many Roman rites are ridiculous or pitiable.
- 24.4Self-wounding and castration in worship are madness excused only by the numbers who do it.
- 24.8Roman rites are full of arbitrary and shameful customs.
- 25.1Octavius ironically answers the claim that Rome's piety won its empire.
- 25.2Rome was founded by criminals, and Romulus murdered his brother.
- 25.3Romulus's Romans seized the Sabine women and fought their own in-laws.
- 25.4Rome grew by conquest, plunder, and crime.
- 25.5Rome's temples come from plunder, and worshipping captured gods is sacrilege.
- 25.6Rome is great not by piety but by unpunished sacrilege.
- 25.7The conquered gods could not protect their own people, and Rome's native gods are mere men.
- 25.8Rome worships sewers, fear, fever, and deified prostitutes.
- 25.9Other nations' gods did not help them against Rome.
- 25.10Many Vestal virgins were punished for unchastity, and the rest were merely luckier.
- 25.11Temples are centres of vice more than brothels.
- 25.12Other empires flourished without Rome's religious institutions, by God's providence.
- 26.1Octavius turns to the Roman auspices Caecilius praised.
- 26.2Roman generals lost battles, supposedly for ignoring the sacred chickens.
- 26.3Others obeyed the omens and were defeated anyway.
- 26.4Caesar ignored the omens and won.
- 26.5Famous seers could not foresee their own fates.
- 26.6Oracles were invented or biased and faded as people became less credulous.
- 26.7Octavius explains that impure spirits lie behind oracles.
- 26.8Fallen spirits seek to draw others away from God through false religions.
- 26.9Poets and philosophers, including Socrates, knew of demons.
- 26.10Magicians work their tricks through demons.
- 26.11The magus Hostanes acknowledged the true God, his angels, and hostile demons.
- 26.12Plato describes demons as beings between mortal and immortal who stir human desires.
- 27.1Demons hide in idols and produce omens and oracles.
- 27.2Demons cause illness and then 'cure' it to win worship.
- 27.3Demons also drive the frenzied public prophets.
- 27.4The wonders Caecilius cited were the work of demons.
- 27.5Demons confess what they are when Christians cast them out.
- 27.6The gods themselves, under exorcism, admit they are demons.
- 27.7Adjured by the true God, demons leave the possessed and flee from Christians.
- 27.8Demons stir up hatred of Christians so people will condemn them without knowing them.
- 28.1Octavius, once a persecutor himself, says it is unjust to judge Christians unheard.
- 28.2Octavius once believed the slanders too, though no Christian ever confessed such crimes.
- 28.3As advocates they defended criminals but tortured Christians to make them deny their faith.
- 28.4Those who denied Christ under torture were let off as if cleared of all crimes.
- 28.5If the charges were real, courts would demand confessions of the crimes, not denials of the name.
- 28.6Demons spread the rumours, which vanish once the truth is known.
- 28.7The charge of worshipping an ass's head is absurd, but pagans do honour animals.
- 28.8Pagans accept Egyptian animal worship.
- 28.9Egyptian worship extends even to onions and bodily noises.
- 28.10The obscene charges reflect the pagans' own sexual vices.
- 28.11Pagans commit acts no one should have to endure.
- 29.1Christians are ashamed even to hear the crimes pagans invent against them.
- 29.2Christians do not worship a guilty man, nor believe a mere earthly man is God.
- 29.3Hope in a mere mortal ends when he dies.
- 29.4The Egyptians worship a man who knows he is only a man.
- 29.5Pagans worship rulers as gods, but Christians do not worship crosses.
- 29.6Pagans who worship wooden idols may be the ones who adore wooden crosses.
- 29.7Roman military standards and trophies are themselves shaped like crosses.
- 29.8The shape of the cross is found in nature, in ships, and in the posture of prayer.
- 30.1Only someone capable of killing an infant could believe Christians do it.
- 30.2Pagans expose infants and procure abortions.
- 30.3Child sacrifice to Saturn in Africa followed the example of the god.
- 30.4Human sacrifice has been practised by many peoples, including the Romans.
- 30.5Pagan practices include blood oaths and drinking human blood.
- 30.6Christians abhor bloodshed so much that they do not even eat animal blood.
- 31.1Demons invented the incest slander to make people shun Christians.
- 31.2Fronto's charge was mere rhetorical abuse.
- 31.3Incest is found in pagan law, literature, and myth.
- 31.4Pagan promiscuity and child exposure make unknowing incest likely.
- 31.5Christians keep to one marriage, sober meals, and many to lifelong virginity.
- 31.6Christians are neither low-class, factious, nor secretive by choice.
- 31.7Christianity's growth testifies to its goodness.
- 31.8Christians know each other by virtue and love each other as brothers in God.
- 32.1Christians have no images or temples because man is God's image and the world cannot contain him.
- 32.2The true sacrifice to God is a good spirit and a pure conscience, not animal victims.
- 32.3Christian sacrifices are innocence, justice, honesty, and rescuing others.
- 32.4God is invisible but perceived in his works in nature.
- 32.5Like the wind, God is unseen; like the sun, he is too bright to look at.
- 32.6If we cannot look at the sun or see our own soul, how could we see God with bodily eyes?
- 32.7God is not distant but fills everything and is within us.
- 32.8Like the sun, God is present everywhere without being diminished.
- 32.9God sees into darkness and into our thoughts; we live with him.
- 33.1To God the whole world is one house, and all live in his presence.
- 33.2Octavius answers the objection that the Jews' one God did not save them.
- 33.3While the Jews obeyed God they prospered and were delivered, as at the Red Sea.
- 33.4Jewish and Roman writers show that the Jews' fall was foretold for their disobedience.
- 33.5The Jews were not captured with God but handed over by him for abandoning his law.
- 34.1Octavius turns to the end of the world by fire.
- 34.2The Stoics too teach that the world will end in fire.
- 34.3The Epicureans agree that the world will perish.
- 34.4Plato says the world is indestructible only by God's will.
- 34.5The philosophers' ideas echo the prophets, from whom they borrowed a distorted shadow of truth.
- 34.6Pythagoras and Plato taught a garbled version of the resurrection.
- 34.7They taught that only souls survive and move into new bodies.
- 34.8Transmigration into animals is a ridiculous idea.
- 34.9Even so, the philosophers partly agree with Christians.
- 34.10God who made man from nothing can remake him; no body is lost to God, whatever happens to it.
- 34.11Nature's cycles of death and renewal point to the resurrection.
- 34.12Many wish there were no afterlife because they fear judgment; God's patience is not indifference.
- 35.1Pagan poets and writers too speak of fiery punishment after death.
- 35.2Even Jupiter swears by the river of hell, fearing its punishment.
- 35.3The fire of punishment torments without end and without consuming.
- 35.4Ignorance of God, the Father of all, deserves punishment as much as offending him.
- 35.5Even with their shortcomings, Christians live far better than pagans.
- 35.6Christians avoid even sinful thoughts, and none are in prison except for their faith.
- 36.1Fate is no excuse: the mind is free and people are judged by their actions.
- 36.2Fate is simply what God, foreknowing each person's character, has declared.
- 36.3Christian poverty is a glory, since frugality strengthens the mind.
- 36.4The truly poor are those who always want more; Christians are rich toward God.
- 36.5Like the birds, Christians possess everything by not coveting.
- 36.6Life's journey is easier without the weight of wealth.
- 36.7Christians prefer virtue to wealth, and their sufferings are a soldier's service, not punishment.
- 36.8Hardship trains virtue, as the pagans' own heroes show.
- 36.9God allows suffering to test and prove his people, as gold is tested by fire.
- 37.1A Christian facing torture and death bravely is a beautiful sight to God.
- 37.2A soldier fights bravely under his general's eye, though the general cannot give life.
- 37.3God's soldier is never abandoned; pagans praise heroes like Mucius Scaevola for enduring pain.
- 37.4Many Christians have been burned alive without complaint, though they could have gone free.
- 37.5Even Christian children and women endure torture with God-given courage.
- 37.6Such endurance is impossible without God.
- 37.7The prosperity of the ungodly only prepares their fall.
- 37.8Without God, happiness is a fleeting dream.
- 37.9Kings live in fear, and wealth only burdens life's short journey.
- 37.10Office and noble birth mean nothing; only virtue distinguishes people.
- 37.11Christians avoid the public games, rooted in idolatry and full of violence.
- 37.12The theatre teaches adultery and dishonours the gods; pagans weep at fictional deaths but demand real ones.
- 38.1Christians avoid sacrificial food not from fear but to make clear they do not honour demons.
- 38.2Christians enjoy flowers, but do not wear crowns on their heads.
- 38.3Crowning the dead is pointless, whether they feel it or not.
- 38.4Christians await an unfading crown from God and live in hope of the resurrection.
- 38.5Christians reject the sceptical philosophers praised by Caecilius, whose lives contradict their words.
- 38.6Christians have found by living it the truth that philosophers sought in vain.
- 39.1Marcus and Caecilius sit in amazed silence after Octavius's speech.
- 40.1Caecilius declares that both have won: Octavius over him, and he over his error.
- 40.2Caecilius accepts Christianity and asks for further instruction the next day.
- 40.3Marcus rejoices and credits Octavius's victory to God's gift.
- 40.4The three friends part joyfully: Caecilius has believed and Octavius has won.