Against Celsus 7.62

Summary: Celsus says Christians' refusal of temples and images is shared by barbarian peoples and taught better by Heraclitus, and that Christians contradict themselves by saying man is God's image.

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Greek text · Koetschau 2:211–212

Φέρε δὲ ἴδωμεν καὶ τὰ ἑξῆς, ἐν οἷς ταῦτά φησι· στῶμεν δʼ ἐκεῖθεν· οὐκ ἀνέχονται νεὼς ὁρῶντες καὶ βωμοὺς καὶ ἀγάλματα. οὐδὲ γὰρ Σκύθαι τοῦτο οὐδὲ Λιβύων οἱ Νομάδες οὐδὲ Σῆρες οἱ ἄθεοι οὐδʼ ἄλλα ἔθνη τὰ δυσαγέστατα καὶ ἀνομώτατα. ὅτι δὲ καὶ Πέρσαι οὕτως νομίζουσιν. Ἡρόδοτος ἐν τοῖσδε ἱστορεῖ· „Πέρσας δὲ οἶδα νόμοισι τοῖσδε χρεωμένους, ἀγάλματα μὲν καὶ βωμοὺς καὶ ναοὺς οὐκ ἐν νόμῳ ποιευμένους ἱδρύεσθαι, ἀλλὰ καὶ τοῖσι ποιεῦσι μωρίην ἐπιφέρουσιν· ὡς μὲν ἐμοὶ δοκέει. διότι οὐκ ἀνθρωποφυέας ἐνόμισαν τοὺς θεοὺς καθάπερ οἱ Ἕλληνες εἶναι.“ καὶ μὴν καὶ Ἡράκλειτος ὧδέ πως ἀποφαίνεται· „καὶ τοῖς ἀγάλμασι τουτέοισιν εὔχονται, ὁκοῖον εἴ τις τοῖς δόμοισι λεσχηνεύοιτο, οὔ τι γινώσκων θεοὺς οὐδʼ ἥρωας. οἵτινές εἰσι.“ τί γοῦν σοφώτερον τοῦ Ἡρακλείτου ἡμᾶς διδάσκουσιν; ὁ μέν γε μάλα ἀποῤῥήτως ὑποσημαίνει ἠλίθιον τὸ „τοῖς ἀγάλμασιν“ εὔχεσθαι, ἐὰν μὴ γινώσκῃ τις „θεοὺς καὶ ἥρωας. οἵτινές εἰσιν.“ Ἡράκλειτος μὲν οὕτως· οἱ δὲ ἄντικρυς τὰ ἀγάλματα ἀτιμάζουσιν. εἰ μὲν ὅτι λίθος ἢ ξύλον ἢ χαλκὸς ἢ χρυσὸς. ὃν ὁ δεῖνα ἢ ὁ δεῖνα εἰργάσατο, οὐκ ἂν εἴη θεὸς. γελοία ἡ σοφία. τίς γὰρ καὶ ἄλλος εἰ μὴ πάντῃ νήπιος ταῦτα ἡγεῖται θεοὺς ἀλλὰ θεῶν ἀναθήματα καὶ ἀγάλματα; εἰ δʼ ὅτι μηδὲ θείας εἰκόνας ὑποληπτέον. ἄλλην γὰρ εἶναι θεοῦ μορφὴν. ὥσπερ καὶ Πέρσαις δοκεῖ· λελήθασιν αὐτοὶ σφᾶς αὐτοὺς ἐλέγχοντες, ὅταν φῶσιν ὅτι „ὁ θεὸς ἐποίησε τὸν ἄνθρωπον“ ἰδίαν „εἰκόνα“ τὸ δὲ εἶδος ὅμοιον ἑαυτῷ. ἀλλὰ συνθήσονται μὲν εἶναι ταῦτα ἐπὶ τιμῇ τινων, ἢ ὁμοίων ἢ ἀνομοίων τὸ εἶδος, οὔτε δὲ θεοὺς εἶναι, οἷς ταῦτα ἀνάκειται, ἀλλὰ δαίμονας, οὐδὲ χρῆναι θεραπεύειν δαίμονας ὅστις σέβει θεόν.

English · Claude translation

Come, let us see the next passage too, in which he says this: “Let us leave that point. They cannot bear to see temples and altars and images. Neither can the Scythians, nor the Nomads of Libya, nor the godless Seres, nor other nations most unholy and lawless. That the Persians too think so, Herodotus relates in these words: ‘I know that the Persians have these customs: it is not their custom to set up images, altars, and temples, but they even charge those who do with folly; as it seems to me, because they did not think the gods to be of human form as the Greeks do.’ And indeed Heraclitus too declares somewhat as follows: ‘And they pray to these images, as if one were to chat with houses, not knowing at all who gods or heroes are.’ What wiser thing, then, do they teach us than Heraclitus? He at least hints, very enigmatically, that it is foolish to pray ‘to images’ if one does not know ‘who gods and heroes are.’ So Heraclitus; but they openly dishonour the images. If it is because stone, or wood, or bronze, or gold, which this or that man worked, would not be a god, their wisdom is laughable. For who, unless utterly childish, thinks these are gods, and not offerings and images of gods? But if it is because one must not suppose them to be images of the divine either, since God's form is different, as the Persians also think, they fail to notice that they refute themselves when they say that ‘God made man’ his own ‘image,’ and the form like himself. But they will agree that these things are for the honour of certain beings, whether like or unlike them in form, but that those to whom they are dedicated are not gods but demons, and that whoever worships God must not serve demons.”

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Source
Koetschau 2:211–212 · Paul Koetschau, ed., Origenes Werke 1–2: Gegen Celsus, GCS 2–3 (Leipzig: Hinrichs, 1899) · Greek text: P. Koetschau, Origenes Werke 1–2 (GCS 2–3, 1899), digitized by the Perseus Digital Library and published by the First Thousand Years of Greek project (Open Greek and Latin), CC BY-SA 4.0
Text
As printed in Koetschau, GCS 2–3. Manuscript variants and the editor's apparatus are not reproduced; no textual problem is noted in this passage.
Translation
Claude translation (claude-opus-5-5), 2026-09-27 · Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.
Compare
Ante-Nicene Fathers, vol. 4 (1885) (an older public-domain English translation, whole volume at CCEL; checked against ours only after ours was made)
Scripture
Extrabiblical texts
  • Herodotus, Hist. 1.131 (Herodotus, Histories) · quotation, high confidence
  • Heraclitus, frag. 5 (Heraclitus (fragments)) · quotation, high confidence

Notes

Translation notes

  • The quotations are Herodotus, Histories 1.131, Heraclitus fragment 5 (Diels–Kranz), and Gen 1:26–27. The Seres are the Chinese, known to the Romans as the silk people.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (misread ending in the digital text): Ἡρόδοτε ἐν → Ἡρόδοτος ἐν.

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Origen, Cels. 7.62 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/7/62/).

Plain text
Origen, Cels. 7.62 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/7/62/).

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