Octavius 16.5

Summary: All people, rich or poor, are born capable of reason; wisdom has often come from the poor.

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Latin text · CSEL 2:20–21

et quoniam meus frater erupit, aegre se ferre, stomachari, indignari, dolere, inliteratos, pauperes, inperitos de rebus caelestibus disputare, sciat omnes homines sine dilectu aetatis, sexus, dignitatis rationis et sensus capaces et habiles procreatos nec fortuna nanctos, sed natura insitos esse sapientiam: quin. ipsos etiam philosophos, uel si qui alii artium repertores in memorias exierunt, priusquam sollertia mentis parerent nominis claritatem, habitos esse plebeios, indoctos, seminudos: adeo diuites facultatibus suis inligatos magis aurum suspicere consuesse quam caelum, nostrates pauperes et commentos esse prudentiam et tradidisse ceteris disciplinam. unde apparet ingenium non dari facultatibus nec studio parari, sed cum ipsa mentis formatione generari.

English · Claude translation

And since my brother has burst out that he takes it ill, is angry, indignant, and pained that the illiterate, the poor, the unskilled should discuss heavenly things, let him know that all human beings, without distinction of age, sex, or rank, are created capable and fit for reason and understanding, and that they have wisdom not acquired by fortune but implanted by nature. Indeed, even the philosophers themselves, or any others who have gone down in memory as discoverers of the arts, before they won a famous name by the skill of their minds, were counted common, unlearned, half-naked. So true is it that the rich, bound up in their wealth, have been accustomed to look up to gold rather than to heaven, while our kind of men, the poor, have both discovered wisdom and handed on its teaching to others. From this it is clear that talent is not given by wealth nor acquired by study, but is begotten with the very formation of the mind.

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Source
CSEL 2:20–21 · Karl Halm, ed., M. Minucii Felicis Octavius; Iulii Firmici Materni Liber de errore profanarum religionum, CSEL 2 (Vienna: Gerold, 1867), 1–56 · Latin text: K. Halm (CSEL 2, 1867), digitized by Open Greek and Latin, University of Leipzig (csel-dev), CC BY-SA 4.0
Text
As printed in CSEL 2. Manuscript variants and the editor's apparatus are not reproduced; no textual problem is noted in this passage.
Translation
Claude translation (claude-opus-5-5), 2026-09-27 · Translated by Claude from the Latin text of CSEL 2; made independently of existing English translations.
Compare
Ante-Nicene Fathers, vol. 4 (1885) (an older public-domain English translation, whole volume at CCEL; checked against ours only after ours was made) · Divided there by chapter only.

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  • Digital text corrected (OCR: "n" for "u".): mens frater → meus frater.

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Minucius Felix, Oct. 16.5 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/minucius-octavius/16/5/).

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Minucius Felix, Oct. 16.5 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/minucius-octavius/16/5/).

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